I've received the latest issue of Fulfilled Magazine, edited Brian L. Martin and published by Fulfilled Communications Group. In this edition are two articles on the resurrection, one by Kurt Simmons and another by Ed Stevens. In later articles we will respond to both resurrection, the kingdom and the sowing of the body.
However, for now it is important to give a brief recap of some misrepresentations Simmons makes in his article, especially as it relates to the full preterist position on the fulfillment of the Law.
The statement expresses a half truth. The Old Testament Law was a valid law until AD 70. However, it is not true that the Old Testament Law (Torah) held Christians in bondage to sin until AD 70. We have made this point more than once. I say this not because I expect Simmons to agree with it, but only because I believe he should at least accurately state the position. Or, if he is quoting one person's view then it is not a fair assessment to ascribe the entirety or even a part of one's view to someone else unless they acknowledge such acceptance.
The law continued until all jots and tittles and heaven and earth (Judaism) passed away, (Matt. 5:17-18). However, it does not follow as a logical corollary that Christians were under the Law while it was being fulfilled, i.e. until 70AD. What Simmons will not or does not acknowledge is the role of the Spirit during the transition from 30-70AD.
Paul wrote: "But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him: nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned." (1 Cor. 2:15). On the other hand, the spiritual one judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. (1 Cor. 2:15). See also Jude 18-19, where the mockers (law-zealous Jews) separated themselves not having the Spirit.
Thus, the Spirit plays a pivotal role in redemption, a fact Simmons notes in his discussion of Romans 8 which distinguishes those who are in the Spirit from those who are in the flesh.
This is further proof that the eschatological transformation of Christ occurred with his resurrection, he being born in the Spirit according to the Spirit of holiness (Rom. 1:4) and therefore could no longer be known according to his relationship as born under the law. (Gal. 4:4). The risen Christ was “new born” and therefore a “new man” (2 Cor. 5:16; Eph. 4:24). The natural temple was destroyed (John 2:21) and the new temple foundation had been laid (Acts 4:11-12, Eph. 2:21-22; 1 Pe.t. 2:4-6).
The point is that whomever it is that married another, i.e. to the risen Christ, is the same who died? That is what qualified them to marry another, i.e. because they had died to the Law. It is grossly incorrect to suggest in this text as Simmons does that the Law died and then married another. The Law of Moses is not married to Christ to the risen Christ.
When Simmons makes the law that which died in this text, he is forced to the position that the law remarried (again because the one who/what died is what/the one who remarries Christ per the text). Therefore, at worst Simmons has the law remarried to Christ and therefore is in effect even now! This is an untenable position.
At best, he becomes a CBV advocate if he understands what dies is not the body that shall be and therefore Torah (the body of Moses) would be transformed into a new covenant body. He winds up teaching what he opposes, i.e. Covenant Eschatology! Thus, Simmons’ position is extremely illogical and works against him on his own terms. What a dilemma!
The illustration above demonstrates clearly that the subjects who died, were “the brethren” denoted by the pronoun for double emphasis. Paul says “my brethren, you” have become dead to the law through the body of Christ that you, may be married to another…”
Ten Commandments from Mt. Sinai
In Romans 8, Paul explains why Christians who walked in the Spirit were not under the Law. "There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.
For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit." (Rom. 8:1-4)
By the way, note that Paul said the righteous requirement of the Law "might be fulfilled" (subjunctive mood which is always future) in us (the saints who had the Spirit). How was the righteous requirement of the Law fulfilled in the saints before or when Jesus died? How did they have the Spirit before the Spirit was poured out?
Were it not for the Spirit, Christians would have remained under the Law, the same as unbelieving Jews, for it was the Spirit which enabled them to die with Christ, i.e. be baptized into his death, during Christ's pre-parousia absence, John 3:5; Rom. 6:1-4; 1 Cor. 12:13.
For these reasons, it cannot be charged that we have Christians subject to the law during the pre-parousia reign of Christ. Since they were born of the Spirit, led by the Spirit and walked in the Spirit, they were not under the law.
These two statements are parallels though they express the ideas slightly different, the meaning is the same. To be led by the Spirit, means sin does not have dominion over the saints. To be led by the Spirit means to be under grace. Thus, it was the Spirit that became the distinguishing mark of authority and authentication for the freedom (Gal. 5:1, 5) experienced by the saints. That is why they were sealed with the Spirit until the day of redemption, Eph. 1:13-14; 4:30.
On the other hand, if they were not led by the Spirit, i.e. non-believing Jews, they were under the law and therefore the sin did in fact have dominion over them.
Therefore, we reject the following assessment in Simmons' statement: "Reduced to its essential elements, the CBV rests upon three pillars, each of which we believe to be objectively false. These are:
Those would be more accurate representations of the Covenant Eschatology view, or at least they are what I believe and teach.
Simmons is a practicing attorney by profession, a very well educated brilliant man. However, even though it is true that a will revokes all earlier ones, it does not necessarily follow that the Old Law ends at the death of the testator or that the new will applies unconditionally to all members of a given family, let alone to everyone. It has limitations in scope. We are not probate attorneys but here is what my limited research says.
As a general rule, a will has no legal effect until it is probated. A will should be probated immediately, and no one has the right to suppress it. The person with possession of a will, usually the personal representative or the decedent's attorney, must produce it. Statutes impose penalties for concealing or destroying a will or for failing to produce it within a specified time.” http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Probate+of+a+will
A will must be probated before it goes into effect. Part of that process involves producing or publishing the will. In other words, that which is private must be admitted into legal public record. Was the will of Christ published at the time of his death? No.
The contesting of the will of Christ determined who were the true sons of God. How did God establish this to the public? For one, he gave the Spirit as noted above. Two, over time he published the will as a matter of public record. But the final piece of evidence occurred in the divine court when the verdict was given to establish Christ's will beyond all doubt. The destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD was the final settling of the question of who are the sons of God, (Rev. 2:9, 3:9). See also 1 John 3:1-3; Col. 3:3-4.
When those who contested the will and who had laid claim to the inheritance were destroyed, (Matt. 21:33-43) their claim was forever denied by God and established in the public record so that all the world for all time would know the people of his favor and who were the rightful and legal recipients of his inheritance. That in my judgment was the probation of the will of Christ.
Simmons has the will going into effect totally before it is ever published. He has the inheritance given at the cross. This is clearly a violation of the probate process of a will. The time when the inheritance is given is proof that the will has been probated. Not until then, does the will go into effect and its assets distributed. Again, it is for this reason, the saints were given the Spirit through this process of divine probate.
offered the following:
“I stand with Paul that the Gentiles who did not have Torah were, “without God, having no hope in this world” (Ephesians 2:12f), but that they could, through conscientious living, be justified (Romans 2:14f). That means, prima facie, that there were two systems in place at the same time.
And did you notice (Here is an empty box!)—that Kurt has totally ignored my repeated argument on Galatians 4? Ishmael and Isaac dwelt together in the same house? Hagar and Ishmael represented the Old Covenant and the Old Covenant people who persecuted Isaac (the spiritual seed). As a result, Paul said, “cast out the bondwoman and her son.” This proves, irrefutably, that the two laws existed side by side until the casting out of Israel for persecuting the church!
Kurt has not breathed on this and he dare not, for it falsifies his new theology. His emotional appeal to “paganism” does not falsify the argument….” EOT, p. 183.
I would also add that Kurt’s appeal to the idolatry practiced in paganism is a distortion of the truth and a debate mad dog tactic designed to steer the reader away from the true force of the argument by injecting an absurdity. He claimed that if Don argued that Pagans could be justified by God apart from the law (Rom. 2:14), implied that God accepted the unbridled idolatry of paganism. This is so utterly false it should not be mentioned.
First, pagans were not the only practitioners of idolatry. Jews practiced idolatry also. Does Kurt deny that Torah was a God given covenant because Jews practiced idolatry on a national scale? That is the absurdity of his argument.
Secondly, that God did not accept the idolatry of paganism is evident from the book of Acts, when the Gentiles who believed but who were not brought under bondage of Torah were told to keep themselves from things strangled and from idols, (Acts 15:28-29). The entirety of the Old Testament is a witness against Simmons desperation in this argument. Idolatry violates the 1st of the ten commandments and was abhorred both before, during and after Torah.
Finally, Abraham was under paganism and God justified him, apart from Torah. He is the clearest example that God did not approve of idolatry under paganism, and hence called Abram out of Ur of the Chaldees, out from the pagan influences of his fathers who were beyond the river. (Gen. 12:1-3, 15:6; Josh. 24:14-15; Rom. 4:2-4)
Every Christian, theologian and preacher should have a copy of the Preston-Simmons End of Torah Debate, especially those on any side of the Preterist movement.
Simmons’ attempt to build and tear down straw men amounts to blatant dishonesty. He is well aware of our views and though he knows them chooses not to honestly articulate them.

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